Former Vet "Made it Rain" During Vietnam War
Alex Jones was joined on air yesterday by weather modification expert Ben Livingston.
Livingston discussed in detail proven evidence of hurricane control and his
research and experiences with cloud seeding and weather weapons used in the
Many scoff at the possibility of weather control and simply refuse to believe
it exists. Attempting to even engage such people in conversation on the subject
is fruitless because their mind is set. Yet the reality is that weather modification
has been in operation and continual development since the 1960s.
Livingston, now 77, has a master's degree in cloud physics from the Naval Weapons
Center and Navy Post Graduate School in California, a degree he later used in
According to a recent report "He seeded clouds and dramatically increased
rainfall in his theater of war, creating impassably muddy roads, slowing down
the Vietnamese and Korean troops, and saving lives and entire towns from occupation."
Livingston was even invited to the White House where he briefed President Lyndon
B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control activities. Livingston asserts
that hurricane control was a national priority of the government in the 60s
and they had the ability to do it at that time. That was 40 years ago.
He now works with scientists and pilots at Weather
Modification Inc., in Fargo, N.D. His research of hurricane control has
been confirmed by the Stanford Research Institute.
He has personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes and has
gone on record as "most disgusted" with Hurricane Katrina because
he knows that the storm itself could have been minimized.
Livingston revealed that to reduce or redirect a category 4 hurricane
would not be that difficult:
"A hurricane is made up of energy sails and each of those sails adds to
the ferocity of it. It was proven in 1974 by an international project that these
energy sails exist and that they are the reason that hurricanes can develop
and grow move and cause damages. So there's no reason to attack the hurricane
in total but just to fly in to the right front quadrant primarily relative to
the direction the storm is moving in and seed those energy sails that are converging
and making the rain and wind velocity increase in the front part of a hurricane."
He went on to explain exactly how to minimize and control the hurricane:
" We would be trying to destroy or at least grossly reduce the velocity
in these individual energy sails by seeding the clouds with silver iodide in
the top part of the cloud... and those tops would then have so many small droplets
in them that the prevailing wind just blows them away and so an energy sail
would be neutralized until it can regroup which may be several hours later."
The seeding process may sound complicated but it is not at all. There would be
no need for more than two small aircraft at a time to safely fly upwards into
"We're carrying more cloud seeding material on one airplane now, over
800% more on each plane than we had during Project Storm Fury" (The project
set up by the US Government to discover how to control hurricanes in the 60s).
Alex put the question to Livingston, if it is so simple to do and the government
knows how to do it and has been doing it since the 60s then why did they not
attempt to minimize hurricane Katrina?
"This is a long story with a deep history. Back in the mid 50s, 1954 or
so, the government allotted the first amount of money for weather modification
and weather control practices to the US weather Bureau to the tune of about
30 million dollars." Livingston said.
"Their charge was to employ the most brilliant scientists around the world,
and meteorologists and physicists, to work out a concept for reducing damages
from hurricanes. What brought that on was that we had three tremendous hurricanes
in 1953 and '54 that affected the twelve northeastern states... Basically The
National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) was formed to take that
responsibility." He went on to say.
Mr Livingston went on to describe how Project "Storm Fury" of which
he was a national director was then set up in the mid 60s. Much of the research
was carried out on hurricanes in the Atlantic at that time.
Project Storm Fury was shut down on the logic that the data was not good enough
to use in statistical studies. Many believe that the research then became part
of a black operation on weather modification.
Upon recently writing to verify what the national policy is on hurricane research,
Livingston received the following response:
"The approach of NOAA with regard to minimizing the impact of hurricanes
on US citizens is to improve our forecast on the tracking and intensity of storms
and to better warn those in harm's way. It is no longer the policy of NOAA to
support or conduct weather modification research."
So there is effectively no official government budget for weather modification
of any kind. This would not however prevent the hiring of private companies
such as Weather Modification, Inc. to carry out the relatively simple work for
around $25 million for the hurricane season. This is a small amount when considering
the billions spent on rebuilding and clearing up after hurricanes.
"The situation is as I see it that the Federal Government and NOAA have
a tremendous job to do and they're doing a tremendous job. But their interest
is in statistical data...where as people who are concerned about hurricane damages
are interested more in results or empirical data." Livingston added.
Dr Livingston went on to read a statement from the Stanford research Institute
who were brought into Project Storm Fury in the late sixties as a third party,
which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been
uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and
cause extensive damage and loss of life.
Livingston revealed that on the 18th August 1969, five seedings at two hour
intervals on Hurricane Debbie, researchers deduced that the wind speed had decreased
from 115mph to 80 mph. That is a 30% reduction and a 45% reduction in damages.
On August 20th a second seeding decreased the wind speed again to just under
100 mph, a reduction of around 15%. Some scientists involved wanted more research
and to uncover clearer patterns so they brought in Stanford as a third party,
who determined that more seeding should be done for damage reduction.
Of course, during the Vietnam war the goal for Livingston and his colleagues
was to actually strengthen adverse weather, to inflate and exacerbate the monsoon
season in order that the Vietnamese get bogged down. So not only is prevention
possible, but also creation of harsh weather conditions.
Dr Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory
to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under
Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment.
"My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation
value" he commented.
Cloud seeding is the process of spreading either dry ice (or more commonly,
silver iodide aerosols) into the upper part of clouds to try to stimulate the
precipitation process and form rain. Since most rainfall starts through the
growth of ice crystals from super-cooled cloud droplets (droplets colder than
the freezing point, 32 deg. F) in the upper parts of clouds, the silver iodide
particles are meant to encourage the growth of new ice particles.
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Airborne hygroscopic flares emit water-attracting particles into cloud
updrafts during a recent cloud-seeding project in Mexico.
Alex went on to ask Dr Livingston whether it was dangerous flying into hurricanes,
and whether that was a factor that could have prevented operations going ahead.
"A good part of the time you're out in the most beautiful VFR weather
you've ever seen. If it's night you can see the stars, the moon, if it's daytime
the sun or whatever. So you can not only see what you're going to seed, you
can analyze it on your radar... generally speaking its not very hazardous flying."
Dr Livingston puts beyond doubt the reality of weather modification.
His take on Hurricane Katrina is that it was not prevented for political reasons.